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  BEAT that Child!

  by Farkel in

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  this is sort of a continuation of threads on dubs and how they are conditioned to discipline their children.

  someone questioned whether the society actually encouraged dubs to whup their children.

  i only had enough time to dig up a few salient quotes from the wt magazine.

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  Nathan Natas

  Lilacs reminded us:

  "Do not withhold discipline from a child; if you beat him with a rod, he will not die"

  Stupid bible writers didn't know about one inch thick electrical power cables.
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  divining rods work

  by zerubberballz in

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  it's a funny ol' world.

  a month ago i was mucking about with some thick fencing wire and i suddenly got the idea to bend a couple of pieces into a set of divining rods like i've seen old nutters doing on tv.

  so i cut two sections of wire about 2' long and bent the ends 4" at 90 degrees to form old fashioned diving rods (twitching sticks are made of yew or hickory or something .. don't know what, if anything aboriginies used).

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  Hey Unc, I say if you're having fun and not trying to "convert" anyone, go for it.

  You're in pretty good company - an acquaintance of the great physicist Niels Bohr visited Bohr’s home and was surprised to see a horseshoe hung above his door. "I would not have expected a scientist like yourself to believe in horseshoes," he said. Bohr replied, "I understand they bring you luck whether you believe in them or not."
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  Thank You, America...

  by Englishman in

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  ...for jack daniels.. and bose.

  and boeing.. and microsoft.. but, 'specially for jack daniels!.

  englishman.. nostalgia isn't what it used to be....

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  On behalf of all Americans, I want to thank the people of Great Britan, Canada and Australia for being the best of friends.

  Let it be noted that Canada has given us - nay, THE WORLD - Father Naeblis Poppaofallofus, the wonderful and honorable Royal Canadian Mounted Police, Second City TV, actress Lydia Schone, Lorne Greene, many great comedians including Mike Meyers and the author Michael Slade.

  It is true that historically it took the US a few years to get it's head out of it's ass when WWII started, but America was not alone in the isolationist movement - didn't the men at Oxford resolve that they would not fight for the crown?

  I for one am grateful. Thanks, brothers!

  PS - if you like Jack Daniels, you should treat yourself to a bit of Booker's Small Batch Bourbon (126 proof)! but be forewarned - bars here charge about $16 a shot.
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  Why The WTS *IS* To Blame re. Laree

  by ISP in

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  the wts will condemn the recent murder and do its best to distance itself from the parents.

  jws will say its the actions of people who are deranged and nothing to do with jws.

  they will say other religious groups harm children.

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  Thanks for the quote Lionel, that came out more than 15 years after I left. I stand corrected on this point.

  What do you think the congregation will do about these two parents?

  What will become of the remaining, non-dead children in this family?
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  Do You Still Believe a God Cares for You?

  by JosephAlward in

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  i've been a part of this forum for about one month, and during that time i've been struck by the willingness of many so former jehovah witnesses either to ridicule the bible, or to stand by while it's being ridiculed.

  so, i'm wondering how many of them while witnesses suffered through experiences so searing that they no longer believe in the god of the old testament.. who among you still believe that underneath the layers of contradictions, inconsistencies, and errors in the bible there may be found the words of a god who created the universe, and who also cares about you, personally?.

  joseph f. alward.

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  You can believe what you want to believe, but I am not obligated to assist you in your fantasies.

  "I wish to see, and I mean this most sincerely, I wish to see the last King strangled with the guts of the last Priest." - Voltaire
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  Do you still believe in god???

  by Nicolas in

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  how many of you still believe in god after your experience of the watchtower?

  do you believe in a different god than the one of the org.

  one who won't destroy somebody just because he wasn't in the good religion.

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  there is no god, there was no Noah's flood, and there will be no armageddon. Time is my witness.
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  Why The WTS *IS* To Blame re. Laree

  by ISP in

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  the wts will condemn the recent murder and do its best to distance itself from the parents.

  jws will say its the actions of people who are deranged and nothing to do with jws.

  they will say other religious groups harm children.

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  ISP -

  I agree with you completely.

  Wiz -

  No offense intended, but you should look at the other half-dozen threads posted here in the past 3 days on this subject. In a NUTshell, a brother in Chicago beat his 12 year old daughter to death using a length of electrical cable the thickness of a garden hose. His JW wife, who claims to be a trained nurse, gagged the girl to silence her screams. In addition to this, the parents forced some of their other children to participate, making them tie the 12 year old spread eagle on a bedframe, stripped naked, and had the kids turn her over so the "scriptural" beating could be administered on both sides of her body from her shoulders down. The report says she was struck about 160 times with this HEAVY cudgel.

  I'm sure you would agree that this is indefensable.

  Can anyone show me ONE quote from a WATCHTOWER of ANY year telling parents to displine with restraint? I doubt it.

  What support program does the WTS have to help the other children in this household overcome the trauma of participating in the murder of their sister?
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  I'm glad I listen!

  by LDH in

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  well a little shock here kids.. on monday, i was talking to my daughter about her (unusual) poor performance in school, in one particular class.

  (straight a kid) now i know she doesn't like this teacher's style, so i try to encourage her to learn to deal with it--i mean, we don't all like each other's style but we live in the same world.

  blah blah blah.. anyhow, she told me she was 'having problems focusing.

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  Lisa,

  You done good! Sounds like you're got a pretty good kid there, too.
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  Why the Dinosaur in the Green NWT Bible?

  by VM44 in

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  inside the front cover of the green new world translation.

  bibles is a map, and in the map is a drawing of a dinosaur.. does anyone know why the dinosaur is there?.

  this is something i have actually wondered about for years.. perhaps someone here might know the answer.. --vm44

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  HA HA Joel,

  Yes - they lived in the desert and died there of thirst and starvation - that's why they're extinct today.

  "...we have desertsin America - we just don't LIVE IN THEM!!!"
  - Sam Kinison
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  Question - What is your dress sense now?

  by Celtic in

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  just out of interest, what is your favourite, most comfortable style of dress sense now?.

  peace.

  celtic

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  Nathan Natas

  I only wear a dress to Governing Body meetings that fall during a full moon. All the boys here at Bethel do that.